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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird%20digression%20on%20c/d/near/135973734" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird.20digression.20on.20c.2Fd.html#135973734">(Oct 17 2018 at 13:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>It is a weird non-standard usage. I blame wycats for using it all the time and the fact that the English language lacks "stimmt".</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird%20digression%20on%20c/d/near/135973738" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> RalfJ <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird.20digression.20on.20c.2Fd.html#135973738">(Oct 17 2018 at 13:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>("confirmed" would have worked for me)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird%20digression%20on%20c/d/near/135973739" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird.20digression.20on.20c.2Fd.html#135973739">(Oct 17 2018 at 13:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>"agreed" somehow doesn't <em>quite</em> cut it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird%20digression%20on%20c/d/near/135973744" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird.20digression.20on.20c.2Fd.html#135973744">(Oct 17 2018 at 13:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes, perhaps I will shift to "confirmed"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird%20digression%20on%20c/d/near/135973757" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> RalfJ <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird.20digression.20on.20c.2Fd.html#135973757">(Oct 17 2018 at 13:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>that would help us foreign speakers who think English grammar rules mean anything ;)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird%20digression%20on%20c/d/near/135973766" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird.20digression.20on.20c.2Fd.html#135973766">(Oct 17 2018 at 13:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>lol you fools</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird%20digression%20on%20c/d/near/135973787" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird.20digression.20on.20c.2Fd.html#135973787">(Oct 17 2018 at 13:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>perhaps I'll just shift to stimmt</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird%20digression%20on%20c/d/near/135973803" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird.20digression.20on.20c.2Fd.html#135973803">(Oct 17 2018 at 13:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>wouldn't be the 1st foreign appropriation</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird%20digression%20on%20c/d/near/135973877" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> RalfJ <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird.20digression.20on.20c.2Fd.html#135973877">(Oct 17 2018 at 13:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>lol</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird%20digression%20on%20c/d/near/135973892" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird.20digression.20on.20c.2Fd.html#135973892">(Oct 17 2018 at 13:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>Steve loved it when people would file issues for the book complaining that "verboten" had been left untranslated in the English version</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird%20digression%20on%20c/d/near/135973926" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird.20digression.20on.20c.2Fd.html#135973926">(Oct 17 2018 at 13:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>I assume that "confirm" comes from ye olde text prompts:</p>
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<p>You are going to delete all data. confirm / deny?</p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird%20digression%20on%20c/d/near/135973968" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> RalfJ <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird.20digression.20on.20c.2Fd.html#135973968">(Oct 17 2018 at 13:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>I suspected it is military speak</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird%20digression%20on%20c/d/near/135974011" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird.20digression.20on.20c.2Fd.html#135974011">(Oct 17 2018 at 13:51)</a>:</h4>
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<p>I assume that "confirm" comes from ye olde text prompts:</p>
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<p>You are going to delete all data. confirm / deny?</p>
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<p>yes I think that is correct. And indeed if an interrogative is desired than "c/d?" is often used</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird%20digression%20on%20c/d/near/135974018" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird.20digression.20on.20c.2Fd.html#135974018">(Oct 17 2018 at 13:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>by wycats, I mean :P</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird%20digression%20on%20c/d/near/135974026" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> RalfJ <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird.20digression.20on.20c.2Fd.html#135974026">(Oct 17 2018 at 13:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>was about to say, toda'ys prompts always say y/n</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird%20digression%20on%20c/d/near/135974035" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> RalfJ <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird.20digression.20on.20c.2Fd.html#135974035">(Oct 17 2018 at 13:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>and they have as far back as my memory goes^^</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird%20digression%20on%20c/d/near/135974116" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird.20digression.20on.20c.2Fd.html#135974116">(Oct 17 2018 at 13:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>you are but a child</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird%20digression%20on%20c/d/near/135974128" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird.20digression.20on.20c.2Fd.html#135974128">(Oct 17 2018 at 13:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>;)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird%20digression%20on%20c/d/near/135974143" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird.20digression.20on.20c.2Fd.html#135974143">(Oct 17 2018 at 13:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>growing up I always felt inferior because I never wrote programs that involved hand soldering the logic, or punchcards</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird%20digression%20on%20c/d/near/135974145" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird.20digression.20on.20c.2Fd.html#135974145">(Oct 17 2018 at 13:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>my dad would tell such cool stories</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird%20digression%20on%20c/d/near/135974157" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird.20digression.20on.20c.2Fd.html#135974157">(Oct 17 2018 at 13:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>I did eventually work on a machine that used tape as its storage, which was fun</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird%20digression%20on%20c/d/near/135974207" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird.20digression.20on.20c.2Fd.html#135974207">(Oct 17 2018 at 13:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>(also, the job was to convert a program from PDP11 assembler into C -- that program read data from the tapes and formatted it)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird%20digression%20on%20c/d/near/135974219" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird.20digression.20on.20c.2Fd.html#135974219">(Oct 17 2018 at 13:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>and it did not have a lot of comments ;)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird%20digression%20on%20c/d/near/135974256" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird.20digression.20on.20c.2Fd.html#135974256">(Oct 17 2018 at 13:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway now I seize on any opportunity to feel old and wizened (like the one I just took!)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird%20digression%20on%20c/d/near/135974288" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> RalfJ <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird.20digression.20on.20c.2Fd.html#135974288">(Oct 17 2018 at 13:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>it's okay, old man</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird%20digression%20on%20c/d/near/135974292" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> RalfJ <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird.20digression.20on.20c.2Fd.html#135974292">(Oct 17 2018 at 13:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>;)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird%20digression%20on%20c/d/near/135974337" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> RalfJ <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird.20digression.20on.20c.2Fd.html#135974337">(Oct 17 2018 at 13:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>"grandpa tells stories about the war", or so? :P</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird%20digression%20on%20c/d/near/135974345" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/136281-t-lang/wg-unsafe-code-guidelines/topic/weird.20digression.20on.20c.2Fd.html#135974345">(Oct 17 2018 at 13:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>lolol yes I guess that's the equivalent :P</p>



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